Thursday, March 29, 2012

Help with special diet

Please can someone help? I posted a question a week ago %26amp; have had no replies,surely there is someone out there who has some advice for me? We are arriving in Hong Kong in one week%26#39;s time. My husband has a food allergy %26amp; will be very ill if he eats anything which has flour in it. This means that sadly we cannot eat any chinese food because of the soy sauce %26amp; the noodles. He cannot eat pasta,pizza, bread,cakes, dim sum etc etc. He can eat any fish,meat,vegetable and rice so long as there is no sauce which has been thickened with flour. PLEASE, PLEASE someone must know where he can eat safely without worrying if he will be ill.





Help with special diet


I%26#39;m sure any good restaurant in Hong Kong would be able to accommodate your husbands allergy. Call ahead to where you are eating a day or two before (or have the concierge do it ) and alert the kitchen. I%26#39;m sure they can come up with something tasty and interesting for your husband. People in NY do this all the time and I can%26#39;t imagine Hong Kong would be any different. Good luck and have a great trip =-)



Help with special diet


Not sure where you%26#39;re staying, but get someone at the hotel to write in Chinese the full details of your husband%26#39;s allergy so you can show it to restaurants and make them understand the severity of the issue.





There are plenty of western restaurants in HK so I assume he would be able to eat the same as he would back home.





Don%26#39;t write off the Chinese restaurants, either. Cantonese food is strong in fish and seafood in general and plain rice, egg-fried rice etc are available in any restaurant. Soy sauce is not as prevalent as we (westerners) think in chinese cooking.





Maybe some local Chinese food experts in this forum can suggest some suitable dishes? It seems a shame to come all this way and be stuck in salad bars and french restaurants all the time!




Can you tell us maybe what he could eat usually while at home? Salad w/ vinegar and olive oil? One thing that seems okay to me is sushi, which you can find them in many places in HK. Ask them to take out wasabi as the fake ones would contain flour too.. just checked, unless they are real fresh wasabi which you can only find them in upscale Jap restaurant. The other thing you could do esp. in HK is to go to a bit upscale restaurant and ask the manager about the allergy and I%26#39;m sure they could do smth about it. The local ones prob. wont bother / know how to handle such situation. Hope that helps.




OK, I have a registered dietitian in my family. So this is what she says:





1) What kind of ';flour'; are you talking about? (wheat flour?) Because question is are you saying he needs a ';wheat free'; diet? There are many ';flours';.... for example, can he eat buckwheat? millet? quinoa? etc. Need this piece of information to refer you anything further.





2) Is this a diagnosis by a doctor? Or your own conclusion based on daily and past experience?





3) What happens when he comes into contact with this kind of ';banned'; foods you have listed here?





Unfortunately, Asian foods are very much about starch, carbs, sauces, a lot of added condiments that you might not be able to tell from just looking at it, or tasting it. Many times, chefs don%26#39;t even know 100% about the ingredients as the sources of certain ingredients are not clear all the time. A lot are premixed, prepared by wholesalers, handed to the restaurant... etc. So unless you are talking about a restaurant that does 100% organic, and home cooking style.... you are going to be susceptible to some kind of risk.





I will wait for you information and give you further info.





You can PM me if you wish.




Katetam - Husband can%26#39;t eat wheat flour so his food has to be gluten free. He has been diagnosed by a doctor as having coeliac disease. He cannot each quinona,buckwheat etc. He can eat cornflour. We find that flour is addded to a lot of food ';unseen'; as flavourings etc. Breakfast cereals are a problem but he can eat meat,fish,poultry vegetables,salads etc. When we have travelled to other countries we have eaten Indian food as they use chick pea or lentil flour which is ok. We visit steak restaurants also but would love someone to recommend some nice restaurants we could eat at in Hong Kong. We are coming for the rugby 7%26#39;s and so know Hong Kong will be very busy so thought if we had some idea of where to eat before we arrived it would help. Thanks for any information you can give us.






well, it%26#39;s actually NOT that bad afterall !!





According to the hospital guidelines for patients with celiac disease, they can eat these that are common in HK (notice buckwheat?).... it%26#39;s up to you of course, and you know best what%26#39;s ok and what%26#39;s not. but this is the guideline:







Rice, corn, millet, buckwheat, potato, corn starch, sago (西米), rice vermicelli (米粉), some common Chinese rice cereal products and gluten free wheat flour (河粉, 瀨粉, 銀針粉, 澄麵, 粘米粉, 糯米粉, 馬蹄粉, 粟粉, 薯粉, 黃豆粉, 葛根粉等)





Basically, alot of the see through noodles here in HK (asia) will be OK. I was actually on a similar diet many years ago with a ';leaky gut'; syndrome.... and was on gluten free diet... was not impossible.





Another worthy article (maybe you read already) but if not:





…about.com/od/…ChineseRestaurants.htm





Don%26#39;t know if this link would work, but under the ';restaurant cards'; link, you can choose Chinese, and it would pop up something like this:







…about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm…





How about oil?I presume you travel quite a bit, would he have adverse reaction with possible ';contaminated'; gluten oil ? Fried noodles is one common dish he can eat here with no soy sauce, but white sauce (cornflour)... or as suggested by the link, bring your own soy sauce that is gluten free :





…about.com/od/…SoySaucePacket.htm





my family member is busy right now, she says she will look up some info for you... if anything useful, I post here for you by Monday.

Tianjin airport to Beijing

If we arrive at Tianjin airport at 7am how do we get to the station for the bullet train to Beijing?



Is there a train from the airport to the station or will we have to get a taxi?



Tianjin airport to Beijing


you have to take a taxi.



Tianjin airport to Beijing


Taking by taxi from Tianjin Airport to Train Station is about RMB 50.



Another way is that taking by airport shuttle bus to Dongfeng Bridge and then taking by public bus 836/905 to Train Station.



IF you want to catch flight in Beijing Airport, the best way is that take by shuttle bus on 天津市南开区红旗路与鞍山西道交口处 to Beijing Airport directly lasting about 2 hours 45 minutes. The bus start from 06:00--18:00 every 30 minutes and the price is RMB 80.

Visiting Datong and Yungang Caves

I plan a day or two day trip to Datong from Beijing. On the way there I would like to see the Hanging Temple. Can anyone advise on the best route to take? How long is the journey to Dantong?

Anita

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  • Airport Bus A21

    dear TA members,



    will take Airport Bus A21 from Airport to YMCA Solisbury.



    how far is Hung Hom Station to YMCA? what is the nearest station to the hotel?





    thanks.



    Airport Bus A21


    You will alight at stop #14 near #30 Nathan Road, just north of Middle Road. You will walk to YMCA Salisbury towards the direction to the Star Ferry pier.





    Go to this link for further information and post again if you have further questions:





    https:/鈥?/a>



    Airport Bus A21


    The bus has several stops in between so you don%26#39;t get off at Hung Hom Station. Teddy already mentioned the stop in his post. The stop will be announced in English and displayed as well on an electronic display board so don%26#39;t worry.




    thanks Teddy and sammy for the info, will be in hong kong with my 2 kids 3yr and 5yrs.




    can i take A21 to royal plaza hotel...?





    if not is there any other pubic bus?





    thanks.




    You might need to take a taxi from the nearest A21 stop which is stop #6.





    www.nwstbus.com.hk/content/default.aspx鈥?/a>




    Stop #14 does it means stop after 14 bus stops?




    ';Stop #14 does it means stop after 14 bus stops?';





    Yes it does, assuming that the bus stops at every stop. There is also an electronic display on the bus announcing each stop in English and Chinese.


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  • Beijing 8 Day Itinerary - Suggestions please!

    The following is my planned itinerary. Any suggestions? Thanks a million!





    Any of the days can be reordered. If I missed any must-see places or should-see places, please tell me!





    3/16 (Mon): Arrive in Beijing in the afternoon. Any suggestions on what to do at night?





    3/17 (Tues): Tianan%26#39;men Square (Mao Museum), Forbidden City, Jingshan Park - Nighttime: Wangfujing, Night Food Market





    3/18 (Wed): Great Wall - Which should I do? Mutinanyu or the Jinshanling-Simatai hike. I have a 10 year old and a 16 year old...





    3/19 (Thurs): Ming Tombs, Bird%26#39;s Nest, Water Cube, Yonghegong (Lama Temple), Xidan (shopping)





    3/20 (Fri) : Hutong, Drum and Bell Towers, Beihai, Silk Market?





    3/21 (Sat) : Panjayuan market, Temple of Heaven, Daguanyuan (Grand View Garden), Liulichang, Tianqiao Acrobatics Theatre





    3/22 (Sun) : Summer Palace, Old Summer Palace, Peking University, Tsinghua University





    3/23 (Mon) : Tianjin day trip?





    3/24 (Tues): ? Leave in the evening. (What to do in the morning?)





    Thank you very much for your time! I appreciate your input greatly!





    Beijing 8 Day Itinerary - Suggestions please!


    3/16--Why not go to Wangfujing the first evening if you feel like it?





    3/18--If you have active children then do the Jinshaling-Simatai hike.





    3/22--Visiting both summer palaces and the universities would be a lot of walking in one day. You can spend most of the day just at the Summer Palace.





    You could go to Chuandixia village one day.





    The Capitol Museum is worth some time--save it for a rainy day (not very likely) or especially cold day.





    I wouldn%26#39;t bother with the Ming tombs. You are getting the main sights. Not knowing your interests, it is hard to know what else might be good.





    You might use the last day or morning to catch up on something you missed or return to an area you especially like.



    Beijing 8 Day Itinerary - Suggestions please!


    I%26#39;d agree with the last poster about the Great Wall and Ming Tombs.





    3/19 you could do the Olympic sites and spend the day at the Ethnic Culture Park.





    3/20 you could put Yonghegong here and walk (if you fancy) up Guo Zi Jian street, past Confucius Temple, across Andingmennei street, up into the hutongs to Drum and Bell Towers, over to Houhai lakes and down to Beihai time/legs permitting.





    Silk Market and Panyiayuan depends on how savvy you are with products and haggling - not my cup of tea - and if you%26#39;re going to Wangfujing and Xidan anyway, then it%26#39;s down to whether or not you really want to do more shopping. Same goes for Liulichang - it%26#39;s a restored street, like Qianmen, nothing much original there, touristy.





    Grand View Garden isn%26#39;t really worth the time - nothing special. It%26#39;s pleasant enough but you might find something more interesting. Not sure what the motivation to go to Tianjin is - it%26#39;s a bit like having a day trip to Luton from London to see the tower blocks when you could be seeing The Tower, in my opinion.





    Fragrant Hills is a nice day out - gardens and pavillions - you can also go to the Botannical Gardens, Sleeping Bhudda Temple, and White Cloud Temple at the same time, plenty of local buses if you can%26#39;t find a taxi returning.





    Happy holidaying!




    Hi,



    The BEST sightseeing route is as follow:



    3/16 (Mon): Arrive in Beijing in the afternoon.



    The cheaper way is that take by airport shuttle bus (RMB 16) or express subway (RMB 25) to Beijing City and then take by taxi (RMB 10/3km) to hotel. but the best way for your THREE is taking by ONE taxi at airport to hotel directly. after dinner Walk through Changan Avenue and overview the beautiful night scene around Tiananmen.



    3/17 (Tues): Tianan%26#39;men Square (Mao Museum), Tian%26#39;an men City Tower, Forbidden City, Jingshan Park.



    Look around beautiful Shishahai Park at night.



    3/18 (Wed): Mutianyu is better and easy going.



    Jinshanling-Simatai is the best but it is far away from Beijing City and NOT convenient and you will cost more money/time if you want to go. at night Tianqiao Acrobatics Theatre.



    3/19 (Thurs): If you go go Mutianyu Great Wall, you can arrange Ming Tombs together in one day because not far between them. So you have NO time to Bird%26#39;s Nest, Water Cube, Yonghegong (Lama Temple), Xidan (shopping)



    3/20 (Fri): Today you can go to Yonghegong (Lama Temple), Drum and Bell Towers, Bird%26#39;s Nest, Water Cube, Beihai Park and Hutong in whole day. they are adjacent. at night Silk Market



    3/21 (Sat): at morning to Panjayuan market, and then



    Temple of Heaven, Daguanyuan (Grand View Garden), Liulichang. Wangfujing, Night Food Market



    3/22 (Sun) : Summer Palace, Old Summer Palace, Peking University, Tsinghua University.



    3/23 (Mon) : Tianjin day trip. and stay in Tianjin is the best.



    3/24 (Tues): take by bullet train from Tianjin to Beijing (120km) lasting just 30 minutes and shopping in Beijing and then Leave in the evening.




    Thank you for all your replies! I appreciate it!

    Ibis northpoint hotel and area

    does anyone know anything about this hotel and the general area. Ibis has a great price, so I am wondering why. we will be traveling with two children.



    Ibis northpoint hotel and area


    The rooms are small. It%26#39;s not in a busy or upscale area. You have to walk maybe 5 minutes for public transit. Some rooms may have waterfront view. My colleague had stayed there for 2 years because it%26#39;s close to the office. It%26#39;s a matter of location and room size. Also it%26#39;s an Ibis, a budget European hotel chain.



    Ibis northpoint hotel and area


    Rooms are extremely small for a hotel. All rooms have 1 double bed and may not even have enough space for 2 people to walk around the room. But besides the size of the room, i see no other problem. Location is more quiet as it is in a mainly residential area. Easy access to the MTR and Tram.




    Hi, this hotel is part of the Accor group of hotels. With two children,you will need two bedrooms. Room size is rather compact; harbour views room provides vista view of the harbour.





    Across the road,is the North Point bus terminus (and also ferry pier to Hung Hom and Kowloon City),and just few yards away is North Point MTR station(exit A1-turn right when you come out of Exit A1,and you are on Java Road).





    General area consists of housing flats,and stores and eateries and also office complexes.




    Ibis is cheap because 1) it%26#39;s a budget hotel chain that belongs to Accor group. The hotel has small functional cookie cutter rooms but quite ok for a cheap hotel. I have stayed in several of them in France and they are usually ok; 2) the location Java Road of North Point, a residential area that is not expensive.





    There are some eateries around and some residential buildings. Small local shops and food markets are also nearby. It%26#39;s not the best looking area but it%26#39;s just as safe as other parts of HK.





    Most transport options can be found within 2 to 3 minutes walking from the hotel.

    Online Visa Agency for US Travelers to China

    Hello Fellow Travelers!





    Does anyone have experience with an agency that can arrange for US travelers to get Visas to China? I don%26#39;t live in a city with a Chinese consulate, so I have to use an agency. However, I can%26#39;t find any reviews of any the ones that turn up when I do a Google search. Any help would be so appreciated!





    Thanks!



    Mike





    Online Visa Agency for US Travelers to China


    Forget reviews. I think that the only think that matters in which one to choose is how much they will charge you. Otherwise if you complete the form properly and include your photos, then you get your visa. They do nothing for you except sent it to the embassy and tell you if you screwed up in completing the form.



    Online Visa Agency for US Travelers to China


    I%26#39;ve been using uschinavisa.com. Cheap, but if you don%26#39;t fill out the paperwork correctly they say they will charge you and extra $10. Even then it%26#39;s cheaper than many of the competitors, but make sure you find the detailed instructions and sample forms on the website.





    Another low-cost one is oasischinavisa.com. I think this one takes credit cards, while uschinavisa does not.





    It%26#39;s always a good idea to check with the BBB for reports on visa agencies, and also to do a google search of them to see if there are complaints posted about them. I have heard of people getting scammed by fake visa companies.




    after all, you are sending your passport to some total stranger. You do want to do some basic research.




    www.usChinaVisa.com



    Transparent process all the way thru, telling you the status any time.




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    low price, yet



    Transparent process, trackable any time.

    help to find a particular temple with fortune tellers

    My wife and I went to Hong Kong when we were young and are heading back this April. When we went the first time we ended up at a fairly large temple, where you could take your fortune to one of many fortune tellers who were set up in booths around the outside of the temple complex. Does this ring a bell to anyone, we can%26#39;t remember how exactly we ended up there but really want to go back again, anybody help us out ?

    help to find a particular temple with fortune tellers

    You are probably talking about Wong Tai Sin Temple. Take the MTR subway to Wong Tai Sin Station and just follow the signs.

    help to find a particular temple with fortune tellers

    Yup, I also think it%26#39;s Wong Tai Sin Temple.


    Is that the one you pass walking down from the escalator?? Cos I thought we got son%26#39;s fortune told in a Man Mo. '; work hard and obey parents'; - best $20 we spent - best kid fortune ever!!


    Wong Tai Sin is the generally well-known area for fortune telling. I actually wasn%26#39;t aware that Man Mo Temple had such services as well although it wouldn%26#39;t be surprising. You can also find the fortune tellers at Temple St Night Market.


    You can get your fortune told at Man Mo temple, although from the OP%26#39;s description that probably wasn%26#39;t the place. There are about 8 (?) fortune tellers at Man Mo. They seem to be in one room to the right of the temple, not in stalls around the outside.


    Ah well, it wasn%26#39;t so much fortune tellers as a fortuneteller. So I don%26#39;t think they make a big thing of it. Very nice scholarly man. And he certainly said the right things. I%26#39;m not sure it had a great effect but I%26#39;d rather he said that then %26#39;forget the parents, don%26#39;t bother with homework, and spend all your money on drink and women.%26#39;


    Wow, I was born in HK and live right by the Man Mo temple and never knew there was a fortune teller there! As far as Wong Tai Sin goes, my dad swears by the fortune tellers there and says he saved over $100,000 US by taking their advice on when to offload some property. :)


    Most temples large and small(che kung, man mo,..) and monasteries(tsing chung koon, pao lin ..) in HK have fortune telling by the sticks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kau_cim), though only a handful have the ';interpreters'; outside銆€year round to explain the story sheet you pick out. If you saw a few DOZEN fortune tellers outside, it would have been Wong Tai Sin.


    Thanks for taking the time to help me out. Yes by looking at the pictures that is the temple we went too.

    Thanks again!!

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  • Xiangfan: flights & hotel

    Hi,



    I have to flight from Shanghai to Xiangfan and spend one night there.



    Is Shanghai airlines the best choice for the flight? Also, could anybody suggest the best hotel in Xiangfan?



    Ty in advanced. Xie xie



    Xiangfan: flights %26amp; hotel


    I suspect that it might be the only airline flying that route?!



    Xiangfan: flights %26amp; hotel


    Ty for your help Elyse. I think so but I tried to check in this forum.



    Any idea about hotels?



    Bye




    Sorry, no idea since we didn%26#39;t stay there.




    No problem, thank you for your help Ellyse. Very kind of you :)

    Citadines Ashley for family of five?? Pls Help!

    We are a family of two adults and three small children ages 6, 4 and 2 yrs who will be staying 5 nights in Hong Kong on a stopover to Europe.





    Have been looking at family friendly accommodation on a budget- noone seems to want a family of five unless you pay exhorbitant rates! I realise that HK isn%26#39;t cheap and that the room size is small compared to other cities..





    I%26#39;ve been looking at Citadines Ashley apartments as they are so central to everything. Also a reasonable price. Realistically, one small child will probably end up in the parent%26#39;s bed so just need another bed for the two older boys. The apartment with the bed and a sofa bed would probably suit- does anyone have any real info. about the size of these %26#39;suites%26#39;? we will probably be out most of the day and I like the idea of not having to travel far to get back to the hotel for a rest before going out again for dinner/ to see the fireworks/ lights etc. So mainly a place to shower and sleep..





    My concern is that we will probably have quite a bit of luggage as we%26#39;ll be in Europe for a few months: might have 2 biggish bags/ suitcases, a stroller and some handluggage of course.. will there be anywhere to put these?? I plan to have one bag to use in HK ie. will pack what we need for HK only so only need access to that one. Looking at the airport, the left luggage is very expensive so not an option.





    thanks for any ideas, information and feedback on this place and any others that might be suitable!!



    Citadines Ashley for family of five?? Pls Help!


    Have a look at YMCA hotel website.



    Citadines Ashley for family of five?? Pls Help!


    Try the Shamrock on Nathan Road. They have deluxe suites that have two double beds.



    http://www.shamrockhotel.com.hk/en/rooms.html




    Langham place has quad rooms, but they seem a bit hard to get. Nice place if a bit crowded in the surrounding area.




    Thanks for the tips: unfortunately a five star hotel is out of our budget with the kids- fine if we were only after a double! The initial price I got for Shamrock was HK$4000 per night!





    The YMCA looks great but also pricey for family rooms-around AUD$400 per night. I will keep looking for somewhere clean, safe and with enough beds for 2 adults, 2 children for around AUD$200 per night. Thanks again- I appreciate the responses.




    We (2A2C (2Y%26amp;8Y) stayed Citadines Ashley 1.5 years ago. The bed is double so may be a bit tramp with 2A 1C. May be better with 1A2C on the double bed and 1A1C on the sofa bed. Ask for room with bath. Great for kids after a long day.





    The apartment is clean, has a small fridge and a microwave. Sufficient wardrope space. A bit of pain for our 2 big suicase but we managed OK. Just unpack what is need to the wardrope and you will be fine.





    The location is perfect, only 5 min away from TST MTR. As our 2Y still needed afternoon nap, we were back for the afternoon and went out for dinner again.





    We will definitely stay there again.




    I%26#39;m very surprised at the quote you got from the Shamrock. We%26#39;ve got a triple at 1200 HKD a night and a double at about 800 HKD.





    Did you contact the hotel directly or go through a booking agent?




    The Shamrock rate was their rack rate posted on their website: I will look at cheaper rates elsewhere online- haven%26#39;t had time.





    thanks for info. re Citadines Ming28 - will have another look as the location seems so fabulous and we also have a child needing a sleep in the afternoon so it could be ideal. We are prepared to put up with cramped space as long as we have beds and it%26#39;s clean and fresh.




    Maybe try contacting the Shamrock direct. That was what we did. I had a look on their website and I can%26#39;t see a rate for a quad suite, just those for twins, doubles and triples, similar to the price we%26#39;ve been given. I found the confirmation they sent and the relevant part is here





    Accommodation : One (1) Standard Twin Room (with 2 single beds) %26amp; One (1) Deluxe Triple Room (with 3 single beds)





    Number of Guest : Five (5)





    Daily Room Rate : HK$880.00 for the Standard Twin Room %26amp; HK$1,250.00 for the Deluxe Triple Room





    *Room rates are inclusive of 10% Service Charge and daily Complimentary Buffet breakfast per room per night





    We%26#39;re going in July.





    www.shamrockhotel.com.hk





    (I don%26#39;t have shares in this hotel or anything, by the way! It%26#39;s just we%26#39;ve stayed there before and found them good quality and good value, and I%26#39;d like to help out another family)




    thanks for looking further into this for us! That is a good rate for the triple- I have since seen a rate inc tax for HK$1330 per night without breakfast..





    Still have a bit of time- we don%26#39;t leave until May so will contact hotel directly and ask about the quad rooms but with the Aussie dollar as it is, it will be pricey! Thanks again: I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.




    You%26#39;re welcome isaMelbourne. I used to live in St Kilda and we%26#39;ll be going back there after Hong Kong (only for a few days, then straight up to Cairns - Melbourne%26#39;s too brrrrr in July!)



    Good luck with your search.


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  • Good location for early flight

    Hi everyone





    We have a one night stopover in Hong Kong in September. As we have so little time and an early morning flight (8am flight), we really need to be somewhere handy for the airport. Although my boyfriend has visited Hong Kong, I haven%26#39;t and I would like somewhere close to harbour area to experience it at night and not be stuck at an airport hotel. Is the Kowloon side best? Would anyone know of budget-mid range hotel (preferably no more than 拢60 per night) which would be suitable - maybe close to train/airport express pickup point.





    Thanks for any advice!



    Good location for early flight


    The only affordable hotel that is close to the airport is the Novotel Citigate Hotel. But it is not really that accessible to the city.





    My suggestion is that you book into a hotel in Kowloon.You can get to the airport by 6:15 am if you take the airport express from Kowloon Station. The train leaves at about 5.50 am. You can also check in for your flight at the station so that will save you time.





    That should leave you plenty of time to catch your flight.



    Good location for early flight


    For good access to airport and harbour with a relatively low budget, try Mingle on The Wing, it is only about 5 minutes by taxi to Hong Kong Station where you can check-in there and then take the train to airport, you can leave hotel by 5:45am -





    www.wotif.com/hotel/View鈥?/a>




    Thanks for the responses!



    Mingle on the wing looks good but doesn%26#39;t seem to have availability on our date although I try the hotel directly. What about Hotel Benito for proximity for airport express etc? From reading reviews on TA it might be suitable? We should be able to do the early check-in (haven%26#39;t quite got my head around it yet but they seem to sell it as being easy to do even with checking baggage in!) as we are flying with Dragon Air.

    Private Tour from Beijing to Great Wall (Not badalin) $?

    Hello-





    I am looking for a private guide to take me on a tour of the great wall on July 14th.





    1) How much should I expect for a guide and a car?



    2) Are there any people who have specifically done a great wall tour with an individual they could recommend? I am looking to go to either the sumatai (sp?) or mautaniu (sp?) sections of the wall.





    Thanks so much!





    -Beka



    Private Tour from Beijing to Great Wall (Not badalin) $?


    the guide cost about 300yuan and guide car cost 600yuan to Mutianyu.if you want to go to Simatai.the car cost higher than Mutianyu,around 900yuan.



    Private Tour from Beijing to Great Wall (Not badalin) $?


    Goos Mom-





    You can read about our trip to the Wall (Mutianyu) in my post ';Detailed Beijing Trip Report.'; We used Kong Lin to drive us to the wall and found him to be excellent - great driver, good company, very reliable and helpful, and decent English.





    Linda




    Goos Mum,





    I also used Konglin is and he really is excellent.





    We went to Mutianyu, then lunch and the Lama Temple he even wanted to take us shopping afterwards but my little sister wasn%26#39;t us to it as she had a sore back.





    We also got Kung Fu tickets through him and he picked us up and made sure we were seated before he left the theater and this was a different night to our day tour with him. You really could not get better service. Thismight sound tacky but when you can%26#39;t speak the language and many instructions are written in Chinese someone like Konglin is a godsend.





    He also has a lovely gilfriend Voilet who is also a guide so it%26#39;s go to contact them as you may get lucky and 1 of them is free for your day out.





    Konglin%26#39;s details are:





    konglin316@hotmail.com





    Mobile in China: 1314 6901596




    %26gt;%26gt; the guide cost about 300yuan and guide car cost 600yuan to Mutianyu ...





    Does it mean 600y for just transporting to the sight (and wait for you to finish your visit to take you back to the hotel) or it is 300+600=900 for a guide driving a car?




    yes,when you hire a guide in Beijing,usually start 300yuan a day.hire a car to Great Wall around 600yuan,this price is in combine with some other sights such as Bird`s Nest etc .If you just go to the Wall and back to hotel,should be less.




    sorry,for a guide driving a car that means an English speaking driver.it is about 600yuan too.




    Personally I don%26#39;t think you need a guide to enjoy the Great Wall. If you want to read up about it, get a guide book to look up the background as that is all a guide will tell you.





    Therefore, you just need a car and driver to take you to the Wall - easy just to hire a taxi for half a day to take you to Mutianyu and then wait for you while you walk along it. Cost should be around the 400-450 Rmb mark for half a day. Use your hotel doorman (not reception!) to negotiate for you if your Chinese skills are poor.




    @ drumbrake:





    Sure, but isn%26#39;t it cost- and time-effective to put both the Wall visit together with something else (in the afternoon), rather than to go back to the hotel at first and after that to hire another taxi to drive you somewhere else?




    MickeySerbia





    Agree - so after the Great Wall you can get the taxi to drop you off at the next place you want to visit - for example the Temple of Heaven. Pay off the driver, see the place, and then get another taxi back to your hotel.




    We used a private guide for the three day we had in Beijing in February. The day we went to the Wall at Mutianyu it was 400 yuan for the guide and 700 yuan for the driver. She bought the tickets at the ticket office at the wall and climbed with us telling us some of the interesting history. On the way back she also took us to the Ming Tombs which was very interesting. We also stopped at a place to take photos of the Olympic Stadium and Birds Nest. She also organised tickets for the acrobats which were half price of the box office price.

    Beijing sites where a guide is a necessity?

    Hello,

    Let me just say I really appreciate the forum and the recommendations I%26#39;ve received on this site already.

    I%26#39;m planning a trip to China with my family (2 small children ages 3 years, and 10 months) for late April through early May.

    I%26#39;m wondering which sites in Beijing are recommended to have a guide, and which sites might just necessitate a driver?

    I%26#39;m looking to maximize our guides time, since we won%26#39;t have her for the entire time.

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

    Beijing sites where a guide is a necessity?

    Within the city it is possible to everything on your own. Because you have small children you can do everything in your own pace.

    Since you have small children I recommend using taxi%26#39;s (they are cheap). The subway can be very crowded.

    If you go outside Beijing, it might be more convenient to use a driver/guide.

    In general using a guide is a matter of convenience. You only need to focus on enjoying the sites and not about the logistics. Also you can use audio guides at sites, but for children it might be more nice if a nice local person is explaining things. But I cannot see where you are from, so I do not know if your kids speak English.

    Beijing sites where a guide is a necessity?

    Hi,

    Beijing is a great place %26amp; relatively easy to get around by yourself. The olympics have made it very English friendly.

    A guide isn%26#39;t really necessary but with small children it might make it easier:)

    The subway is very easy to use but you may be better off with a taxi for more far flung locations.

    If you are visiting the Mutianyu section of the great wall you will need a taxi / car and depending on where you are staying then also for the Summer Palace.

    A guide may come in handy if you want to do a bit of exploring of places such as the Hutongs. It would help you with a bit of background info %26amp; the ins %26amp; outs of life in China.

    Also a good guide book is invaluable.

    Good luck with everything:)

    Annie


    Thanks BePu for your comments. We%26#39;re American expats currently living in Tokyo.

    We would love to know some day trips, even overnight trips, that would be interesting and could get us away from the city. Xian is one of the non-Beijing places we%26#39;re heading to (taking the overnight train).

    Other suggestions for places that are worth checking out?

    Thanks.


    I do not know how long you will be here but there is a lot to do in Beijing. You can see the essential in 4-5 days but you can explore more deeply if you have more time. Xi%26#39;an is the best ';side trip';.

    You do need guides if you are well prepared but a driver to go to the Great Wall.


    We%26#39;ll be in China from 4/28 through the morning of 5/9. We have a decent amount of time! I think we have pretty well planned out what we want to try to do in and around Beijing, and then Xi%26#39;an.

    There is so much out there, I%26#39;m basically stuck not knowing what else to do. Any ideas as a launching off point in my research? For example other places within close striking distance to Beijing, or perhaps a place that%26#39;s a logical next destination from Xi%26#39;an?


    I am guessing 4 nights for Beijing, are you planning one night or 2 nights in Xian? That leaves 2 -3 days for somewhere else.

    fly from Xian to Hangzhou - 1 night. Then

    Hangzhou to Shanghai on fast modern train 1 %26amp; half hours. Stay Shanghai. But a bit squishy %26amp; time lost in transit.

    Or fly from Xian to Shanghai. Add in a day trip to Suzhou

    Or Fly Xian to Guilin / Yangshuo. Lovely.


    Thanks annieandhamish,

    Lots of good ideas there. I%26#39;ll do some more research and probably come back with more questions.

    I appreciate the time you, and others, have spent in answering my questions.

    Have a great day.


    The sights in Beijing is huge,Such as Forbidden City C,Summer Palace.It is much easier with a guide but you can do it on your own.

    Hire a car/van to Great Wall,if you can find an English speaking driver,the driver also can explain the Wall to you.


    Hi, we recently spent 4 nights in Beijing. We had a guide for three days. You can do the sights by yourself but with a guide you find out lots more of the history and other facts. The first day with the guide we went to the Forbidden City, Tiannmen Square and Lama Temple. We used taxis with the guide to guide between places. Taxis are probably much easier with kids and are very cheap. We went to to Mutianyu section of the Great Wall and Ming Tombs on the second day. The third day we went to Temple of Heaven, Summer Palace and to the night food markets. She also took us to a local restaurant to have Beijing Duck(not a tourist restaurant, which was chepaer)and ordered for us. We then caught a taxi back to our hotel.

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  • Hotel for ~$150/night

    Hello, I will be traveling to Hong Kong with my spouse in May. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel for the 2 of us for around $150USD per night. We will be in HK for 7 nights. Thanks!



    Hotel for ~$150/night


    According to my currency converter right now 150USD is 1162.62 HKD which will probably get you a room at 4 star hotels.





    Renaissance will fit in to your budget (2 locations) if the timing is right (no big event happening)



    Langham Place, Lanson Place, Eaton Hotel, Hotel Panorama, Sheraton, and Excelsior are other hotels that might be around that range (maybe higher though).





    Check the reviews and the candid traveler photos to see the rooms and which hotel will be fit for you.





    MTR is very convenient (subway) and easy to use and so as long as you are near one of the stations you can easily go somewhere!



    Hotel for ~$150/night


    Hi try this web for Hong Kong hotel%26#39;s price





    www.hotelhk.com




    Ramada HK is HK$900 / night HK$5,000 wk according to their ad outside the hotel.



    The tram stop is outside the door, and the A10 /12 City Flyer airport bus stops across the road




    Having looked at the currency exchange comment in the first post - I%26#39;d highly recommend %26#39;stretching%26#39; your budget to try to stay at the Lanson Place in Causeway Bay. My fiance and I stayed there for 7 nights last year and it was an absolutely fantastic base from which to explore Hong Kong. Close to the MTR you could be in Central in about 10 minutes, with great shopping in Causeway Bay and great restaurants. We loved it so much we%26#39;ll be heading back to the Lanson in June as part of our honeymoon. (proposed on the Star Ferry after dinner at the Felix at the Penninsula - great view!!!)




    Having looked at the currency exchange comment in the first post - I%26#39;d highly recommend %26#39;stretching%26#39; your budget (it won%26#39;t be too much of a stretch) to try to stay at the Lanson Place in Causeway Bay. My fiance and I stayed there for 7 nights last year and it was an absolutely fantastic base from which to explore Hong Kong. Close to the MTR you could be in Central in about 10 minutes, with great shopping in Causeway Bay and great restaurants. We loved it so much we%26#39;ll be heading back to the Lanson in June as part of our honeymoon. (proposed on the Star Ferry after dinner at the Felix at the Penninsula - great view!!!)




    Lanson Place Hotel is good if you can stretch the budget, otherwise Metropark Hotel Causeway Bay Hong Kong or Fleming Hotel should fit the budget.




    Some of the 5-star hotels at Tsim Sha Tsui East also offer such competitive rates *if* you come at the slow season. For example, during January which is supposed to be the peak period for hotels at TST East, Intercontinental Grand Stanford had rates that were as low as $1,200 due to poor business.




    Hi mgooddeals,





    I%26#39;ve just booked rooms at a newer hotel in TST called the Butterfly on Prat through asiatravel for 80CAD. Opened past December. They have a special on right now if you book deluxe rooms (stay 3 nights, pay for 2). I%26#39;m not sure if they are sold out, but check their site.



    If you call the hotel directly, I know that they have superior rooms (which is what I have booked) for 127CAD. Hope this helps!





    PS Yes, the Langham and Langham Place are very nice. My brother has stayed there and raves about it, but I think it is about 260CAD (maybe 300USD?) a night.




    oh! Disregard the comment on the Langham hotels....I thought it read Langham in the previous posts. It%26#39;s Lanson they were talking about!




    You may also want to try Hotel Panorama, a very new hotel at the heart of Tsim Sha Tsui. It has received solid reviews overall from Americans I personally know.

    Hours to walk up and down the mountain?

    How many hours does it take to WALK up and down the mountain at mountain back (Yungu) or front (Taiping)?



    Hours to walk up and down the mountain?


    If I take the Taiping cable car up, WHAT IS THE BEST TO GET DOWN THE MOUNTAIN?





    Take a different car down, and if so, which? Walk down, at western slope, as a different post says?





    I will stay at a hotel at the mountain top and, after seeing the sunrise, will come down the mountain, going to Westlake at noon or afternoon, before taking a plane to Guilin in the evening.



    Hours to walk up and down the mountain?


    I just found out thru the internet that it takes about 3 hrs to walk up from the mountain back, and about 6 hrs from mountain front. However, walking down should take less hours. Thanks anyway.




    Not sure what you mean by ';back'; and ';front';. The two main walking trails are claled Western %26amp; Eastern steps. Western steps is the most scenic route. It takes about 7 hours and would not be a lot quicker going down. The Eastern steps is the most direct (read boring) and is directly under the cable car. It takes about 3 hours up and 2-2.5 hour down. Both end up near the cable car station.




    Yeah, I am a bit confused about the terminology.





    For mountain front, I meant where the Taiping cable car slope,, while the mountain back is the Yungu cable car slope.





    When you said the western steps, do you mean the Yuping cable car slope, or the Taiping cable car slope?





    I thought that the Taiping cable car slope is very pretty, but I have no idea about the scenery of the Yuping slope at all, presumably same as the Yungu slope?





    Eastern steps: Yungu (Cloud Valley) cable car. Western steps: Yuping (Jade Screen) cable car.





    Thanks.

    Need suggestion for 2 Days Itinerary in Guilin/Yangshuo

    I posted this question before on China forum but only received one feedback - from elysee (Thanx!) - but would like hear from others as well. I found that most people seemed to suggest to go to Yangshuo directly and skip Guilin. If I have only two (2) full days in this area, what is the best way to spend my time? Li River cruise or Yangshuo bamboo rafting or both? What best places to see and do in Yangshuo in limited time? How about places in Guilin such as Reed Flute Cave, Elephant Trunk Hill, etc? Thanks again for everyone%26#39;s feedback.



    Need suggestion for 2 Days Itinerary in Guilin/Yangshuo


    We faced this decision too. The majority of opinions seem to be in favor of going straight to Yangshuo. I guess if you only have 2 days then you want to make the most of them.



    The most scenic part of the Li river is supposed to be between Yangdi %26amp; Yangshuo. You can go to the Xingping section of the river, not far from Yangshuo %26amp; do a small boat ride there.



    There is also the Yulong river which some say is as good if not better than the Li River. There are raft rides available for this section.



    If you don%26#39;t end up staying in Guilin %26amp; seeing the Reed Flute Cave then there are caves to see in Yangshuo as well.



    Lots of activities so look on www.yangers.com



    or the place we are staying in Yangshuo has activities on their website as well www.yangshuorosewoodinn.com



    There is also the Impressions Show at night on the river to see.


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  • Day trip to Hangzhou from Shanghai

    Hello,



    I intend to do a day trip to Hangzhou from Shanghai on 27th Mar. How should I go about doing it and which are the must see places in Hangzhou? How do I move around in Hangzhou?





    All suggestions are welcome. Thanks! :)



    Day trip to Hangzhou from Shanghai


    Please do a forum search or browse, this is a FAQ.



    You could go either by tour or DIY, I personally prefer the latter but that%26#39;s up to you.



    In a day, if you%26#39;re DIYing, you could probably see Lingyin Temple, West Lake and Hefang Jie pedestrian street. What else you could fit in would depend on your sightseeing pace and interests.



    You could get around by bus or taxi around the city. For West Lake you could also go around it on foot or bicycle.



    Day trip to Hangzhou from Shanghai


    If you can squeeze it in then it is best to see Hangzhou with an overnight stay. It is a wonderful %26amp; beautiful city with so much to see.




    Thanks. I%26#39;ve actually already done a search here but I couldn%26#39;t really find what I was looking for.





    I intend to do a DIY. I wanted to find out if there are cab drivers available at the Hangzhou train station (taking D train from Shanghai) that we can book for a day and who will be willing to bring us around in Hangzhou. And how much will that roughly cost?





    Also, how long is the westlake cruise? Does the cruise make stops at various places with designated period of time, or are we free to stay at each place on the cruise stop for as long as we want?





    Thanks again! :)




    If you%26#39;re planning to DIY, go to National Library, Borders or Kinokuniya and have a quick browse through the guidebooks available there. Even better, borrow one from National Library and return it after your trip.



    Sure enough there%26#39;re taxi drivers who would be willing to do a day hire, but why would you need to? You could easily take taxis and buses as you go.



    There%26#39;re 2 different types of ';boat cruise';. One is the rowboat kind which you%26#39;ll probably have to bargain with the boatman for a price per hour, don%26#39;t remember the price as I did that a few years ago. The other one that brings you to the islands in the middle of the lake departs at intervals from various docking points around the lake, and you can more or less take your time at each spot, simply get on the next available departure when you%26#39;re done.




    Tnanks Ellyse. That%26#39;s really helpful! Ok, I will just take a cab or bus as I go along.





    As for the boat cruise, are there any websites on it? Looking for information like where to board the cruise, which are the stops that the cruise stops? etc.




    Hi, For the motorised boat trip there is a dock on the lake a short walk from the Sofitel. Thus is where we caught it from but there would be others. It takes you over to the little Island in the middle (Three Pools Mirroring the Moon) Once on the island there are docks at various places to take you back.You can also hire bikes to ride around the lake.




    I don%26#39;t think they have websites. From what I remember, they should have 4 boarding points around the lake: Yue Fei Temple (岳庙 northwest), Hubin Lu (湖滨路 east-north), around Nanshan Lu (南山路 east-south, don%26#39;t remember the exact location) and Flower Harbour (花港观鱼 southwest).




    Nanshan Lu is where we caught it. The ticket booth is right on the Lake. It%26#39;s on the section of the lake near the Dahua Hotel.




    Is Hefang Jie a day or night market?




    HI there,





    I%26#39;ve one other question.





    1) Would it be better to take the train from Shanghai railway station or Shanghai South station? Of course I would prefer to take the D train from the south station and reach Hangzhou within 1h and 18 mins. However, I read from somewhere in this website that it takes 1.5 hour to get from Shanghai railway to Shanghai South...That defeats the purpose of taking the D train.





    2) I am staying at Hyatt on the Bund. How do I get to the Shanghai SOuth station from there and how long does it take?





    Thanks again! :)

    Best area in Shanghai to stay for cool local flavor

    I am taking my boyfriend for a 10 day trip to China, he has never been out of the country so this will be a real ';trip.';

    I want to stay in an area where markets, resturants, metro available. Not going to stay in fancy Western hotel, I can get that here. Under 100$ is cool, more interested in the local flavor not high end copies of the Western culture.

    Thanks for all responses,

    Cissy in Houston

    Best area in Shanghai to stay for cool local flavor

    Actually, Shanghai is also a metropolitan city like many big cities in U.S. Most hotels are westen style in the downtown. I think you can choose some hotels near the people%26#39;s square or Lu Jia Zui District. Lu Jia Zui is my first choice, because you can find markets, restraunts and metro all you wanted.

    Best area in Shanghai to stay for cool local flavor

    Try China /Broadway mansions hotel near to suzhou creek.Or u can stay at around French concession area like the mansions hotel.For very affordable centrally located 3 star hotel but in a prime area u could stay in Charms hotel.Hotel by itself is modern in decor ,not classical but location is great.


    i won%26#39;t choose Lujiazui according to your preference. Lujiazui financial zone is too western %26amp; modern, besides no markets there. restaurants are mostly in the Super Brand Mall or expensive office building or hotels there.


    We loved Yuyuan Old City. I think we had the best Chinese food in all my life there (dim sum with jasmine tea is dreamy IMO).

    Here are our photos from 2 days, one of which was in this area of the city...

    鈥logspot.com/2009/03/shanghai-china-funding鈥?/a>

    Happy Travels.

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  • Train from Xian to Huangshan

    Hello,





    I have been trying to find a train from Xian to Huangshan but haven%26#39;t had any luck, can anyone help me with the train schedule? we plan to take the train on June7/8th.





    Thanks



    Train from Xian to Huangshan


    Most people heading to HuangShan arrive via Tunxi (Huangshan Shi) %26amp; then catch a mini bus from the train station.



    There are trains that go between Beijing %26amp; Shanghai to/from Tunxi but not sure if there are direct trains between Xian %26amp; Tunxi. You might have to fly to Huangshan City airport which is in Tunxi.

    Beach resorts from Shanghai

    Can someone please suggest a relaxing way to wind down after 3 weeks traveling and a conference in Shanghai. We have about 3 days before flying home.



    I wondered about a beach resort or river experience.



    Beach resorts from Shanghai


    If you browse more on these boards you%26#39;ll find that the popular opinion is that Chinese beaches aren%26#39;t worth it compared to their counterparts in South-East Asia or the Caribbean.



    If you%26#39;re very intrepid and outdoorsy, you might want to try the Zhoushan islands archipelago, off the coast of Zhejiang province.



    Another choice, but in the hills, would be Moganshan.



    The closest choice for R%26amp;R (personally, not by your requirements) would be Hangzhou.



    Otherwise, consider venturing further to Yangshuo: http://www.yangers.com



    Beach resorts from Shanghai


    Beach resort ? Gotta be joking.. Check yourself into a nice 5* hotel and enjoy Shanghai ... think Pudong near the Bund would be nice.. ';soo near yet soo far';.. relexing yet yet away for all the chaos..




    Thanks for the reply . Yes I did laugh at myself comming from NZ. We will have been in Shanghai for a week before this. There will be lots of things we haven%26#39;t done.




    Check out the photos I have posted here on my travel blog and look carefully at the color of the river (and air). When we sailed out of Shanghai into the sea this color followed us for a long long time before it was diluted.





    鈥logspot.com/2009/03/shanghai-china-funding鈥?/a>





    Beaches in this part of the world are out of the question in my opinion. You will however fall in love with the city. It%26#39;s world class and stunning at every turn.





    Cheers.

    Help with itinerary

    Dear fellow posters, Flights, dates are set and even some reservations have been made but I still would like your advice. I fly into Beijing and have 6 nights reserved at a hotel. I fly out of Shanghai and have 4 nights already reserved. That leaves a total of 5 nights ';to play with';. I was thinking of taking the sleeper train to Xian, thus 1 night, then staying in a hotel in Xian for 1 night, then taking a sleeper train elsewhere for a night, thus leaving 2 nights. Being my first time in China, should I simply ad 1 more night in Beijing and 1 more night in Shanghai and be done with it? I keep reading about the distances involved and wasting so much time in transit. What are your thoughts about those 2 extra days? Thanks for the advice ahead of time.



    Help with itinerary


    After Xian you could go to Hangzhou %26amp; spend the 2 extra nights there %26amp; then on to Shanghai.



    Instead of another sleeper train fly as the cost won%26#39;t be too much extra.



    Hangzhou is very pretty %26amp; is centered around the West Lake. Also well known for it%26#39;s tea.



    From Hangzhou to Shanghai it is 1 %26amp; 1/2 hours on the fast modern D trains. Get your hotel to book a ticket for you when you arrive.



    Or after Xian you could go to Suzhou which is famous for it%26#39;s gardens. Although Suzhou is usually done as a say trip from Shanghai.



    Help with itinerary


    It depends on the sort of thing you like to do.



    You are doing 2 big cities so you may consider the countryside to see another aspect of China. That would involve replacing Xi%26#39;An with Yangshuo



    http://www.yangers.com/

    A Meet and Greet person from the airport to hotel

    Hi,



    I saw through some old posts that someone had arranged for someone to pick them up at the departure lounge (or when they arrive) with a



    sign with their name on it and then they take them



    to their hotel.





    I am travelling early July into Beijing by myself with a young child and am a bit worried about getting to the hotel safely.





    Can anyone recommend someone to pick us up like this and how much would it cost approx?





    Thanks, Kitty



    A Meet and Greet person from the airport to hotel


    Hi Kitty,



    Beijing is safe.



    The cheapest way is taking by airport shuttle bus (RMB 16) or express subway (RMB 25) to Beijing City and then take by taxi (RMB 10/3km) to hotel. another way is take by taxi at airport to hotel directly.



    A Meet and Greet person from the airport to hotel


    You contact your hotel in Beijing and arrange for them to send someone to pick you up from the airport.





    However, this is really only necessary in those countries without metered taxis / airport transport. In Beijing, you just need to get into a taxi, show them the Chinese address, and they will take you to your hotel. Very easy.




    Thanks both you guys for your help. Probably a stupid question but where do I get a printout



    with the chinese characters of the hotel I want to



    go to?



    Thanks again,



    Kitty




    Go to your hotel website. Find the page with the address and possibly a map then change language (usually at the top of the page) to chinese (涓枃)



    Otherwise tell us which hotel and we can find it for you. It is also a good idea to have the hotel phone number. There are so many hotels in Beijing that sometimes rivers do not know a particular one, then they just call the hotel for direction.



    If your phone works in China actually, no need to print, just call the hotel and pass the phone to the driver.




    Ah.. Huh. Thank you so much oh Wise One


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  • Beijing Hotel near metro

    Hi

    I%26#39;m looking for a good/preferably western brand hotel near a metro stop. Don%26#39;t need to be near the center of the city because this will be our 3rd time to beijing, so we%26#39;ve done all the major tourist stuff, and looking to explore the city more. Have been lookiing at the Novotel Beijing Sanyuan, which is a newer place on the outer part of town but right next to a metro stop. What about the renaissance Beijing, near the embassy, is that near a metro? Any other suggestion of hotels %26lt;$80/day that is near a metro, and not necessarily too close to the center of the city (I hate the traffic in beijing!).

    Thanks

    -PKZ

    Beijing Hotel near metro

    One of the Renaissance Hotels looks like it is less than half a mile from a subway stop, the other is further out.

    There are a lot of hotels near subways. Here are a few:

    The Holiday Inn Downtown

    Trader%26#39;s

    Swisshotel

    Otani (Japanese Brand)

    These have all been around awhile--I can%26#39;t really keep up with all of the new hotels springing up everywhere.

    Beijing Hotel near metro

    If you can book Novotel and renaissance at the same price.I suggest renaissance,not far from subway station by walking.


    I recently stayed at the Crowne Plaza Sun Palace. It is new and just north of Ring Road 3 north-east. 10 minute walk to subway. Because of the location it is quite cheap and definitely a 5-star.

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  • guilin & shenzhen

    i%26#39;ll be on my vacation to Guilin %26amp; shenzhen about 1 week.



    any recommendation ';cheap %26amp; proper'; hotel in shenzhen %26amp; guilin? where to go and what to do?



    Thanks for any advice.



    -semox-



    guilin %26amp; shenzhen


    goto this website for Quilin accomodation



    http://www.yangers.com



    guilin %26amp; shenzhen


    Generally speaking, hotels in Guilin are less expensive than Shenzhen.




    First read the hotel review section on this website then read the forums on these 2 cities then you can return with more specific questions

    godwell and fanda selling authentic perfumes?

    Hello,





    Does anybody know Godwell Perfume and/or Fanda Perfume stores in TST?



    Do they sell authentic perfumes or fakes?





    TIA



    godwell and fanda selling authentic perfumes?


    Fanda has a company headquarters there, I don%26#39;t know of any shops specifically but I suggest departmrnt stores like Wing On, as you can be sure it%26#39;s not fake. (Now that I%26#39;ve said this, hundreds of people will rush to answer more fully, that%26#39;s the way it works.)



    godwell and fanda selling authentic perfumes?


    Thanks Guerilla Surgeon!




    Hi,





    They do sell authentic perfumes. I always bought mine from this store. The headquarters of Fanda is in TST. They have a store on Worldwide Plaza in Central. Fanda sells their perfume at a cheaper rate than Sasa.

    Airport to Courtyard Marriot Hotel

    I will be arriving in HK at 7.30am, Can anyone advise which bus to take to Courtyard Marriot Hotel ?



    I then have to be back at the airport to meet my wife at 1PM, Which bus do I take back %26amp; how long should it take ? (It%26#39;s next Thursday)





    Thanks for any help.



    Airport to Courtyard Marriot Hotel


    At the arrival hall after exiting the restricted access area, look out for the Spaghetti House Restaurant billboard which marks the exit to the airport%26#39;s public bus terminal. From here, the easiest way to get to Courtyard Marriott Hotel is by Cityflyer bus A11 (HKD40), alight at Shun Tak Centre (about 45minutes), and transfer to a taxi for a 5minute ride to your hotel (HKD25). From Courtyard Marriott Hotel to the airport, it is easy. Just turn left at the Courtyard Marriott exit to the busstop along Water Street (perpendicular to Connaught Road West where your hotel is) and take any of the three Cityflyer buses A10,A11,A12 which takes you nonstop all the way to the airport%26#39;s doorsteps.



    Airport to Courtyard Marriot Hotel


    I think it might be easier to just get the Hotel shuttle bus %26amp; catch a local bus back.Do they run very often?




    Actually, airport bus A12 will bring you directly to the Courtyard Marriott (stop number 5 on Water Street, directly across from the hotel).



    Take either A10 or A12 back to the airport at the same bus stop (but watch the destination display on the bus, since this stop serves both inbound and outbound buses). The ride takes about 40 minutes.

    Notebook battery shop?

    Have been to Hong Kong Mongkok several times but was wondering if anyone knows of any particular shop that sells laptop batteries?





    Thanks for any help.



    Notebook battery shop?


    You may have an easier time looking for laptop batteries at Wanchai Computer Centre (on top of Wanchai MTR station), or the computer mall at the 10th floor of Windsor House in Causeway Bay.

    closest hotel to Lowu Commercial Centre

    Hi there, can someone please advise what is the closest hotel to Lowu.

    And is Metropark okay? Is it walking distance?

    closest hotel to Lowu Commercial Centre

    Hi ,

    The Metropark is not so close to Luo Commercial Centre.Do you mean Luo hu commercial city?(a shopping mall in Luo hu port)

    If that,Shangri_La and Century Plaza Hotel is

    more close to it.

    closest hotel to Lowu Commercial Centre

    I was gong to book Century Plaza but have read reviews and they are not very good.... Shangri-la is a bit pricey


    Why walking distance. I usually stay at the Crowne Plaza Landmark (cheaper than Shangri-La) and it one subway station away - total cost 2rmb


    The Station Hotel is (as the name suggests) next to the railway station, a short stroll from the Lo Wu/Luohu border crossing with Hong Kong and more or less in the centre of the retail paradise that is Lo Wu. The hotel has several wings and the prices of these vary. I stayed in what I was told was the cheapest wing and the room was clean and comfortable.


    can anyone tell me what sites sell this station hotel please. I found it by searching google but the hotels own website is hard to follow such as how many in the various family suites etc etc.


    Hi there,

    Just got home a few hours ago from our trip. I thought I%26#39;d post something to help out others. We ended up booking the Days Inn Dongmen which was lovely but in Dongmen and based on our adventures, we really should have stayed in Lowu again. In terms of proximity:

    1. Railway Station Hotel Shenzhen - is the closest! Its right across from Lowu commercial city, much cheaper than Shangri-La, but not as flash. Its REALLY easy to locate, on your left as you walk along the plaza towards Shangri-La. Awesome location, communicating in English is a little tricky but the Manager was lovely and provided her direct email address if I wanted to book. I%26#39;ve got their flyer if anyone needs info. Their website is not great!

    2. Shangri-La - super easy to locate, in fact it cannot be missed once you reach the plaza as it is right in front of you.

    3. Best Western Felicity - stayed there in 2006, close (as the crows flies) but a little tricky to actually get to. We ended up catching a taxi from the Shangri-La the first time as no one knew where it was. We could see the building but had no idea as to how to reach it. Very little on that side of the railway, and we didn%26#39;t feel super safe commuting from Lowu Commercial Centre daily. Hotel fine though!

    4. Century Plaza, a short stroll from the Shangri-La - less than 5 mins. Internally, no idea but location wise, great as there are heaps of nice shops around that area.

    5. Days Inn Lo Wu, when walking out from the train station along the plaza, if Shangri-la is at 12 oclock, then its at 2-3 o%26#39;clock. Much easier to find at night as its a huge neon sign - just make sure you know their logo! Know where the building is - but will be tricky to get there, may need to get to Shangri-la, then figure it out from there - probably a good 5-10min walk from Shangri-La.

    That%26#39;s probably enough for those looking to stay in the area! Hope this has been helpful!

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    I have been to lo wu before but obvously only saw a very small part of it. We struggled to find any western food and yet reading on here, I gather that ther are lots of food outlets. can anyone tell me where they are please



    eating inside Lo wu


    By ';inside Lowu'; do you mean LuoHu Commercial Centre? (LuoHu is an entire suburb, which includes the Shangri-La Hotel just across the road from LCC.





    Why would you want to eat western food in China? Last week I had really good Yum Cha at a place on the 4th floor called Lucky restaurant. They have girls in QiPao outside the lifts who will show you a picture menu.





    Restaurants in LuoHu CC change hands often. There is one ';western'; restaurant but who wants poor western food?



    eating inside Lo wu


    Restaurants are at the end of the floors but not on every floor, I think mostly the top floor. I don%26#39;t think that the food there is very good. Plenty of choice outside.




    the closest half decent place is the Shangri-la hotel, accessible by footbridge from the commercial city. Dirt cheap for a 4/5* hotel. There is also a free shuttle bus service. Personally I always go to



    Inside the complex, ground floor at the north end, there is a HK-based fastfood place serving ';western'; food.




    well, personally I go to Xin Du hotel a few blocks north.




    I am really only interested in a place where we can get some food while in that mall there. Sounds like it is called the LCC??? The one next to the border/ Yes I ama ware of lots of places outside the mall but when the girls are out shopping, we dont wnat to leave the mall to eat. We are not against chinese food at all but one of us in the group has a real fear of anything foreign so I am trying to cater to everyones needs with my request.




    As our friend Zhuhai says, the upper floor restaurants of the LuoHu Commercial Centre are the place to go. I%26#39;ve been to a couple of these, on I think the fourth and fifth floors. Fifth was better. Both have a great view of the open spaces of Hong Kong across the border.




    great, thanks for the advice. I%26#39;ll definetly head up to the higher levels.




    Hi there - just back from Shenzhen today.





    Can highly recommend LAUREL - level 5. We ate there lunch daily but you will need to book or get there at 3pm-ish. EXCELLENT garlic broccoli, excellent seafood with mushrooms and peking duck. Hubby said Pork was excellent also. Service outstanding. Just make sure you get all the menu%26#39;s as the first one we received had astronomical prices then found other menus on tables which had much more reasonable prices. Laurel cannot be missed. Not all staff speak English but they try very hard and have some Eng speaking staff.





    We also had breakfast and a lunch at TASTE level 4. When ordering steak, if you want medium - say well done. I ordered steak medium and got rare. Steak was EXCELLENT. Breakfast was pretty good too, just note that a cappucino/expresso is the same price as a breakfast meal. Service great. Club sandwhich is recommended. Most staff speak English so pretty easy to communicate.

    Days Inn Dongmen - Feedback

    Hi everyone,





    Just got back from staying at this hotel. If you want to be in Dongmen, then great location, outstanding rooms/suites, very reasonably priced, spacious suites, good room service, very clean etc... only issue was that when we booked, we specifically asked for a bed for the 3rd person (a teenager) - not a fold out bed/rollaway as we were staying for 5 nights.





    When we arrived, a fold out was provided, at an additional amount of $180 RMB per night which was not agreed to. They confirmed that the room could accommodate 3 people (couple and teenager) but failed to mention the additional price. In the end, we only had the roll away for 1 night as it was ROCK/GRANITE hard so our teenager preferred the comfy couch!!





    I didn%26#39;t feel 150% safe in the area and preferred to head out with hubby rather than on my own which I%26#39;m usually very happy to do.





    The area has a serious number of beggars which do not accept a simple no or a wave but continue to ';shadow'; you. This didn%26#39;t just happen there - it happened near Lowu Commercial Centre also so I dont want to give people an incorrect impression.





    If you are interested in seeing other things to what you get in Lowu, then its a great alternative for a night or two but I would have preferred to have stayed near Lowu again.





    Days Inn Lowu or the Railway Hotel Shenzhen would have been in a similar price range. We paid $588 RMB plus tax for a suite which I would describe as deluxe!





    Taxi from here was $12.50-ish to Lowu Commercial Centre. Didn%26#39;t take the train, but the station was about 100 metres from the hotel door and it was only 2 stops away. The China Mail centre was also only a few metres away which would have been handy if we needed to post stuff home.





    All in all, very nice, friendly etc....





    Oh - bed was comfy, unlike most others in China where they are usually rock hard!

    mirador mansion hong kong -- help pls!

    hi! does anyone know why mirador mansion is not a good place to stay in? im going to hk on sept and reserved a room in mirador hostel (located in mirador mansion). im really getting scared of all the bad reviews. can someone tell me if i should stay there or not? pls help!



    mirador mansion hong kong -- help pls!


    I don%26#39;t know what the reasons why you reserved a room there, but I assume it%26#39;s budget reasons. If that%26#39;s the case, then not much to say, if budget is not the number 1 reason, I would look elsewhere.





    Here is an interesting read about it:





    鈥ypepad.com/weblog/2005/08/one_room_5_guys.



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    It%26#39;s better than sleeping on the street I guess. If you are a guy, that would be better, if you are female, I would be worried.



    mirador mansion hong kong -- help pls!


    hi katetam! i read the link that you posted, and now i really am terrified of mirador mansions. i did reserve a private room but the building itself scares me. i chose it because it%26#39;s cheap and right off the mtr. thanks for your advice, at least what i read won%26#39;t happen to me...i want to stay in tsim sha tsui near the mtr. i have checked other cheap accomdations and found a few..can you tell me if these places are ok?





    1. sealand (majestic house, nathan rd, tsim sha tsui)



    http://www.sealandhouse.com.hk/





    2. star guesthouse (cameron rd, tsim sha tsui)



    http://www.starguesthouse.com.hk





    3. stanford hillview hotel



    (pretty far from the mtr station but cheap)





    thanks again for your reply, really helped me made up my mind!






    Mirador is listed as one of the licensed guesthouses for tourist. The following link provides a full list of licensed guesthouses in Hong Kong. Go to one designated for Tourist. Don%26#39;t go to one designated for Local and never go to one that is not on the licensed list. Licensed means the guesthouse has been inspected by the licensing authority and meets certain minimum safety and health standards.





    www.hadla.gov.hk/english/guest/locat.htm




    there are many services, restaurants, and hotels listed as ';tourist'; designated or recognized by tourism board/government.... it doesn%26#39;t mean it%26#39;s necessarily good. This is by experience for sure. I guess as a tourist, it%26#39;s one way of protecting oneself. However, Mirador Mansions is definitely NOT a place I would stay if I had a choice. The place itself/facility is not the problem, it%26#39;s the kind of people that hang around there, and the way it%26#39;s managed is the problem.





    Standford Hillview is MUCH MUCH better choice. It%26#39;s a hotel, and it%26#39;s NOT far away from MTR at all ! It%26#39;s just 7 minutes at maximum away from MTR.





    Go for it.




    Thanks for the insight..I%26#39;ll probably go for Stanford. I really do want a place in Tsim Sha Tsui near the MTR. Again, thanks for your help!




    Hi There, I%26#39;m not sure how old these posts are, but to anyone thinking of staying in Mirador Mansions.... ... DONT!!!!!! I did, BIG mistake. It is DISCUSTING. I was scared, the place is like a jail, a complete fire trap, and dodgy people are everywhere. My husband and I thought we%26#39;d save a few bucks and do one night on the cheap by staying there, those few bucks have scared me forever, I can still feel the sluminess of it. As soon as we were shown our room, (or tiled cupboard to be more accurate) we went out to the markets and bought cheap sheets to wrap ourselves like body armour in when entering the room, we kept the sheets around us at all times like a hazard suits so that we wouldnt touch anything in the room. If my foot flew out in the middle of the night, I freaked. The room is tiny, noisy, DIRTY, the shower is at the foot of the bed, over the toilet, everywhere is covered in grime, it really is discusting, no joke. I only stayed because I had the comfort of knowing my husband was there, and even then I was still freaked. We barracaded the door whilst trying to sleep (got no sleep at all, too freaked out) with suitcases and we set booby traps inside just in case. DO NOT STAY AT MIRADOR MANSIONS!!!!! Or any other cheap cheap budget hostel in hong kong, the standards are different to most places, they dont have any. Trust me, its frikkin scary, especially for females. If there was a fire or an attack or break in, you will be cornered, have nowhere to go, and noone will hear you scream.




    HoplessRomantics





    There most be 20 or more different hostels and guesthouses in Mirador Mansions. Rather than tarring them all with the same brush, please tell us the name of the one that you stayed at.

    Defachang dumpling restaurant

    Hello,



    I%26#39;ve read about this xian restaurant, which should be located directly on Bell Tower square.



    I%26#39;d really want to try it, but I%26#39;m a little bit scared of language barriers.



    Do you know if this restaurant has english menus ? Or if any of the staff is English speaking ?



    More over: I%26#39;ve read about their dumpling banquets... can someone explain how it works ?



    Thanks !



    Defachang dumpling restaurant


    Hi friend You worry about some restaurants haven%26#39;t Eglish menu and nobody speak English.You are right.But Defacgang Dumpling Restaurant most waitress can speak English(Near by Bell %26amp; Drum Tower).If you want to try the common dumpling half kg cost 25yanRMB.If you take dumpling banquet 80 or 100yuan/person.Don%26#39;t worry about your luggage.You carry that go to the restaurant. Tanks



    Defachang dumpling restaurant


    Popular restaurant %26amp; they have English menus. Enjoy.

    Shanghai, 1983

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    Some nice old picture by a tourist.

    Shanghai, 1983

    thanks for sharing. I miss the buses in that time:D

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  • From Shanghai Pudong Airport to Hyatt on the Bund?

    How to get from Shanghai Pudong Airport to Hyatt on the Bund?



    If I were to take the airport shuttle, which line shall I take?



    How long is the bus ride?



    From Shanghai Pudong Airport to Hyatt on the Bund?


    shuttle bus line 4 (22RMB), to the other terminal then take taxi around 15RMB, 1.5 hours for shuttle bus then 10-15min for taxi ( no traffic jams)





    way 2:



    maglev train 40RMB by showing your flight ticket, then taxi around 40RMB



    From Shanghai Pudong Airport to Hyatt on the Bund?


    Thanks for your prompt reply. I read that it takes only about 8 mins to travel on the maglev train from Pudong to Long yang. Is that right?



    Then I think I will take the Maglev then. Is it easy to catch taxi outside Longyang station? And approximately how long on the taxi to Hyatt on the Bund?





    One other question, which is the nearest metro to Hyatt on the Bund? Is it within walking distance?





    Thanks a lot! :)




    1) yes 8 min but you need to wait for the maglev train coming, generally 15min including waiting time + take maglev



    2) around 30 min no traffic jams



    3) metro line 3 Baoshan Road Station, by walking around 20-30min




    When in Shanghai just take the cab .. it will not cost your very much compared to Singapore. Only problems are the traffic jams .. but since the taxi charged by distance and not waiting time.. just sit back and relex.. taxi drivers pretty hornest in Shanghai .. just advod the Dark red ones ... baby Blue r the best !




    forget to say it%26#39;s very easy for you to catch a cab out of LongYang road maglev station, just go to the taxi stop ( Do remember go to the taxi stop I should say to avoid any scam later).


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    Hi Again:



    Thanks everyone for the great advice for Shanghai. I think we are going to be staying at the Hyatt on the Bund. I am now looking to hire a private tour guide for my husband and myself. My husband is slightly handicap and walks with a cane...it is too much for him to be on a huge tour bus. Does anyone know of a private guide we can hire for a day or two? Any website. We want to see the obvious big tourist spots. Thank you for any advice at this time.



    Hiring a Private Tour Guide


    When are you travelling?



    Hiring a Private Tour Guide


    Jeez, four responses and three get deleted.




    because it%26#39;s not allowed to post ads here;)

    massage

    Is it cheap to have a full body massage in Shanghai ?



    massage


    Massages in Shanghai is relatively cheap compared to many other cities.The range maybe from 280 to 600 RMB depending on how posh the massage parlours are.The upscale one maybe found in dragonfly,International spa at Eversunshine hotel,Song2,Eden,some major hotels like Ramada Plaza,Westin,Bundsauna,Lisboa at Huai hai zhonglu.U need not give any further tips if u dont desire to give,Even if u feel like giving it should not be excessive as the masseurs unlike many other cities do not demand tips.in most cases.



    massage


    A one hour Chinese massage at Dragonfly is 135rmb.




    The prices i quoted r for full body massage.




    had some fantastic massages at a massage place on the street across the road from the bund centre last month .... the cost for a foot massage was about $8AUD and body massage about $9AUD and the price was for an hour...unbelievable value...very nice sitting up having a foot massage sipping on a Tsingtao beer (BYO)






    There r many massage parlours n spa centres in Shanghai.Most r well managed n decentwith very reasonable pricing n the customers can relax in peace.Only a very few r with some extraordinary services but generally most r quite professional in their approach n clients need not worry of been fleeced or harrassed as some may experienced in certain cities where r thhe masseurs demamnd for exorbitant tips as in Saigon.Rest assured that as long as u enter in to a decent one n not oine that is introduced by so called pimps along the roadside u wont have a problem at all.




    Thanks for your replys guys. We are going for 10 days in October. We are then staying 3 days in Dubai. I have had a few massages in Dubai before and the venues are fabulous (cleopatras) being one. The prices are not particlarily cheap though !! I wanted to decide where would be the best venue.




    in shanghai, you can find lots of place doing massage



    I recommend dragonfly, coz some of my friends tried before, feedback is good.



    u could check the website: http://www.dragonfly.net.cn/




    There is no pricelist on the dragonfly website. Anyone have the latest price list? e.g. for a 1 hour massage?




    for one hour massage: 135RMB full body



    for one hour oil massage: 225RMB full body

    accommodation in Beijing and Shanghai

    Can you please advise on accommodation in Beijing and Shanghai? Ideally a hostel as I woudl like to meet some people, not too far from the centre.



    Maybe some useful links?





    Thanks,





    Anita



    accommodation in Beijing and Shanghai


    Check the hotel review section for these 2 cities on this website.



    accommodation in Beijing and Shanghai


    Could you give us an indication of price? Hostels are good value but even they vary a bit. I.E: Shared dorm/ toilet or private room in the hostel. Also keep in mind there are lots of Chinese run guest houses that are good value.




    Hi,



    I am not too fussed about the conditions themselves, more about the location though.



    Group dorms will do as well. Would not like to spend more than 拢15 per night





    Anita




    for hostel in Shanghai:



    http://www.hostels.com/cn.sh.html



    i quite like MINGTOWN Etour International Youth Hostel which is in the city center and close to metro line 1/2/8

    Mingle on the Wing

    Hello, has anyone stayed yet at Mingle on the Wing hotel located at Sheung Wan in Hong Kong? If so, do you have any comments? We are thinking of staying there later this month for a few days.

    I believe it may be run/owned by the same group that operates Mingle Place in TST in Hong Kong.

    Many thanks

    Mingle on the Wing

    Hi there. We checked into this hotel last night. It is indeed owned by the same people as Mingle Place - in fact when you get here, it%26#39;s branded ';Mingle Place On the Wing';.

    THey%26#39;re still fitting out the hotel - they%26#39;ve only just taken it over. The room we have is a delux, and it%26#39;s small - but that%26#39;s common for rooms in HK. None of the fancier features have been installed as yet. There%26#39;s a flat screen TV in the room, but no DVD player, or movies on demand as yet - those are coming soon apparently. The TV in the shower hasn%26#39;t been installed yet - there%26#39;s a stainless steel blanking plate covering the hole where it%26#39;s going to go. There is free high speed wireless, and there is a Skype phone in the room - which doesnt appear to work!

    The shower is amazing - there%26#39;s a power shower handset and a rain shower - the best shower I%26#39;ve ever seen in a hotel.

    So if you%26#39;re looking for a nice modern hotel room with a great shower, and you%26#39;re not worried about the tech features that they mention, then I%26#39;d go for it. If you do want all the tech features, then perhaps look at the Mingle Place in TST, or even check out their other hotel, which is not too far from here on the Island. (Sadly I can%26#39;t remember it%26#39;s name now, but I%26#39;m sure google will know - again it%26#39;s branded Mingle Place).

    Mingle on the Wing

    Thanks very much. That is very helpful. I think we will go ahead then. Hope you have a good stay in HK


    Whilst the staff were all very polite and appeared sincere and concerned, we found the following problems at this hotel:

    1. We booked a 5-night stay and EVERY day (yes 5 times) we complained that the room was cold and there was no heater. The first time the receptionist said it would be too hard as they%26#39;d have to find a heater factory!!?! I suggested they just go buy a HK$150 heater from a shop, but that seemed to make no sense to him. The staff seemed to rotate to new staff almost every day. The next 3 people over 4 days (to whom we complained about the heating) all seemed very concened that we were cold and assured us they would have the aircon fixed (apparetly the heat output on it was broken, apart from the fact that it had a secondary fault where it would never turn on in the first place without a technician resetting something in the hall cupboard). On the final day one of the earlier staff members said she had previously ordered a technician and didn%26#39;t know what had happened. She assured us that she would chase it up, ...but it still was not fixed. They probably fixed it the day we checked out, as if that is of any use to us...

    So all in all we were very cold in our (HK$730/night) room!! Absolutely unforgivable, a backpackers would have provided a cheap and effective heater, so why can%26#39;t a mid-range hotel do it?? We had to wear long sleeves and long pants when we were not in bed.

    2. The room was TINY - shoebox sized. At first I thought this was just a Hong Kong standard but then we moved to a slightly cheaper (and far nicer) hotel very close by and got a room almost 3 times the size for less money and of a higher standard. At Wing On Lok we paid for a ';Deluxe Room'; as opposed to a standard room, so I expected some space, it was so small that I had to do my morning exercises (push ups, yoga) on the bed!

    3. There was no wifi service in our room, despite this ';tech-hotel'; bragging that wifi is ';everywhere'; in the hotel. I got zero bars and could not establish a proper connection. To be fair, there was a CAT5 connection but this meant being tied to the (tiny) desk so I could not use my laptop in bed which would have been a lot more comfortable at times.

    4. The AV system was still not complete (hence not working at all apart from the TV), despite the hotels advertisement claiming it would be ready for February (we stayed Feb 12-17). There was no DVD played and I could not plug in my MP3 player.

    5. The reception staff member when we checked in (late) could not speak more than a few words of English, In addition he had no concept of trying to communicate in other ways (sign language etc..) although the latter seems to be a trait of all HongKongese.

    6. Although this did not matter to me, the hotels advert was all about personal service - but there was none of this whatsoever, larger hotels have always been far more personal. Reception couldn%26#39;t even give (or even sell) me a map of Hong Kong!


    Any idea about the room size in sqm? I%26#39;m thinking of taking the standard room for 2 adult and 1 4yo child. will it be too cramp?


    I%26#39;m staying at the Mingle on the Wing on the moment.

    Haven%26#39;t seen the standard rooms however I%26#39;d recommend going the Executive Suite that I%26#39;m in. Small for a suite but paying HK$1200 a night from wotif.com.

    Everything seems to work, movies on demand system is awesome.

    Staff speak English well and are polite, always saying hello when you walk in or out.

    Great value for money IMHO.


    Thanks.

    I%26#39;m getting 2 rooms, so quite tight on my budget to get 2 suite rooms.


    Hi mayneberlin,

    When are you going to stay there?

    Hope you can share some info and post some photo of the hotel after your stay there?

    I am travelling to HK on the 25th May 09 from Macau and I am interested in this hotel too.

    Hope you can help.

    Thanks.


    Hi,

    I%26#39;m going on 27 mar - 29 Mar. This period is fully booked.


    Hi Mayneberlin,

    Will wait for your posting after your stay in Mingle on the Wing.

    Have a nice holiday in HK.

    Thank you.

    Leong WK


    Hi Ski Kaos,

    You were saying that ';moved to a slightly cheaper (and far nicer) hotel very close by and got a room almost 3 times the size for less money and of a higher standard. At Wing On Lok we paid for a ';Deluxe Room'; as opposed to a standard room';

    May I know what is ';this cheaper'; hotel name or website and address?

    Is it clean and good location?

    Thanks

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